Zdravím Začiatok Konca, vynecháme obligátní představování kapely, jelikož na československé scéně nejste žádní nováčci a rovnou se zeptám. Co v tomto roce vzhledem k vašemu výročí chystáte?
Ahoi! No, v podstate nechystáme nič, plánovali sme veľkú akciu, ale vôbec nemáme v Topoľčanoch vhodné priestory, tak to musíme odložiť na inokedy. Chceli sme pozvať kapely, ktoré s nami stáli po boku po celé tie dlhé roky ale nevadí, ak sa dožijeme, tak to netradične oslávime na 31. výročie. Času dosť alebo to odložíme na 40. Chystáme ale aspoň zase niečo nové nahrať a snáď už aj ten videoklip sa nám konečne podarí spáchať. Uvidíme, hľadáme stále človeka, ktorý nám s tým pomôže a dokope nás k hereckým výkonom.
Minulý rok jste nahráli nové mini-album Babylon A.D., které je mimochodem naprostá pecka. Nicméně deska vyšla jen v digitální formě, neuvažovali jste o tom, jí někdy v budoucnu vydat na i vinylu, např. společně se songy co jste zveřejnily v roce 2015?
Ooouuu! Dik za pochvalu. Jasné, radi by sme to videli na vinyle, vlastné LP ešte doma v zbierke nemáme. Máme pripravené nové skladby do štúdia, radi by sme ich po nahratí nejak zvečnili aj spolu s inými, ktoré boli len digitálne vydané ale vydanie LP je zatiaľ pre nás dosť drahé a nedostupné. Väčšinu vecí si robíme DIY s pomocou kamarátov v štúdiu, grafikov a podobne. Keď budeme mať peniaze, bude aj LP.
Letos Začiatok Konca slaví 30 let, když se ohlédnete zpátky, která z těch tří dekád byla pro kapelu ale i československou oi!, punk a hardcore scénu, ta nejsilnější. Které z těch tří desetiletí mělo podle vás nějaký spirit?
Tak zrejme roky 2000 - 2004 boli najsilnejšie, čo sa týka spoločnej hardcore, oi! a punk scény. Boli to silné roky, kedy sa vyrážalo vo veľkom na spoločné koncerty s DPH, Happy Cocks, Dr.Pako... A predovšetkým do Čiech, kde sa to upevňovalo a spájalo. Až sa to začalo spájať s niečím, čo už bolo za hranou a tak sme hodili spiatočku. A nielen my, ale aj iné kapely a ľudia okolo. To, čo sa vybudovalo zrazu spadlo a ľudia sa vytratili a zostali znechutení z toho všetkého. Je smutné, že to takto dopadlo. Ale všetko ide ďalej svojim životom a my sa držíme hesla "žiť a nechaj žiť", čo je zvlášť v dnešnej dobe veľmi dôležitý postoj. Do tej miery samozrejme, pokiaľ ťa priamo neohrozuje niekto druhý.
V 90. rokoch to bolo asi najlepšie v tom, že bolo všade veľa kapiel, koncertov a kamarátov. Nebol internet, mobilné telefóny a aj tak sme sa vedeli stretnúť všetci v jednej krčme aj s kamošmi z iných miest. Hrali sa rôzne štýly punk, anarcho-punk, hardcore, sXe hardcore, crossover... Na Slovensku bolo veľa zinov, väčšinu názvov si ani nepamätáme, snáď len Oskar Uličník od nebohého Rasťa. A taktiež kopa ľavicových a sXe zinov, ktoré písali o právach zvierat, vegetariánstve, squatoch atď. Robili sme veľa rozhovorov do týchto zinov, ale to boli také polovážne rozhovory, sami sme nevedeli čo rozumné povedať. Všetko sa to točilo okolo piva a muziky, politika sa moc neriešila a to bolo na tom najlepšie. Bulldog zine a BBB sme spoznali až na prelome roku 2000, kedy sme robili spoločný koncert s The Protest v Topoľčanoch. Mimochodom ich jediný na Slovensku. Mali sme tu spoločnú TPS crew, ktorá sa doteraz ešte raz za čas stretáva. Takéto podobné partie okolo kapiel boli všade, ktoré spolu pijávali a chodili skoro na všetky koncerty na Slovenskua ale aj do Čiech.
Hrajete od roku 1990, což už je slušná řádka let. Jak se Začiatok Konca vyvíjel, byli jste už od začátku oi! / skinheadská kapela, nebo to šlo postupně? A co současná setava, kolik je v ní původních členů? Předpokládám, že v dnešní době už asi na subkulturních škatulkách tak nelpíte!
Nie, nikdy sme neriešili oi! či hardocre alebo punk. Hrali sme čo nás napadlo a čo sa nám ľúbilo. Nebrali sme žiadny štýl nejako zvlášť ortodoxne. Žiadne škatuľky, máme radi keď sa to pekne mieša. Muzika musí byť pestrá. Samozrejme sme boli ovplyvnení všetkým možným, od Agnostic Front cez Spermbirds až po Napalm Death. Až keď sme trochu lepšie vedeli chytiť nástroje do rúk, tak to začalo dostávať lepšie tvary a nápady. Všetko sme sa učili za pochodu, nemal nám kto poradiť, ako hrať, ako skladať, ako pracovať v štúdiu. A vlastne sa stále učíme doteraz. Oi! vplyvy v našej hudbe má na svedomí už nejaký ten duch doby, kedy sme chceli zjednodušiť hranie a viac sa zabávať. Mali sme okolo seba veľa ľudí, ktorí frčali na oi!, tak nám to prišlo celkom prirodzené a bavilo nás vidieť, ako sa bavia všetci spolu, či už HC kids alebo oi!punx. Dnes hráme v zostave kde sme dvaja pôvodní členovia (Novko a Feďo) a pribudli k nám v roku 2019 dvaja mladí a skvelí muzikanti, ktorí nám dodávajú trochu toho rock and rollu na osvieženie. Rok 2020 pre nás ale začal ťažko, sme opäť bez jedného člena a máme pripravené veci len v trojke.
Od vydání alba Zovretá past z roku 2012 je znát posun k trochu hardcorovějšímu soundu. Vedly k tomu změny v sestavě, nebo vás už oi! a streetpunk začal hudebně omezovat?
No, hlavne sme sa vždy snažili hrať tak, aby to bavilo každého jedného v kapele. To je základ. Nemyslíme si ale, že hráme nejak inak, je to len o troche alchýmie, ako to v štúdiu namiešaš, aký zvuk sa ti podarí. A každá skladba je len odraz nálady, kedy tá ktorá skladba vznikala. Babylon A.D. vznikal kvôli neustálim zmenám v kapele veľmi dlho ale sme radi, že sme tie skladby mohli nahrať a veľmi nám k tomu dopomohol aj náš vtedajší gitarista Mišo, ktorý prišiel čerstvo do kapely, vlastne rovno do štúdia a vylepšil konečný sound nahrávky. No a uvidíme, čo vylezie z nás tento rok. Streetpunk z nás určite nevymizol ale nedá sa hrať stále dokola to isté.
No ten refrén ako aj celý text je obraz našej doby, vlastne celej histórie odkedy je človek človekom. Ľudia sú na seba zlí a nič nám nepomôže. V tom texte sa spieva o modle, ktorú si ľudia pribili na kríž a o modle ktorá pomocou zaslepených ľudí zabila milióny ľudí, o modle ktorá v mene viery pácha vraždy a teror... moc optimizmu v tom texte nieje, keď vidíme, že aké zlé plemeno je človek. A ľudia čakajú na posmrtný raj, ako aj pozemský, ale sami preto nič nerobia a spoliehajú sa, že niekto iný za nich rozhodne. Či boh, politik alebo sused. To, v čom sme vyrastali sa samozrejme nevráti, v podstate sa máme teraz lepšie ale medziľudské vzťahy sa veľmi zhoršili. Aj vďaka internetu a antisociálnym sieťam. Máme až moc informácií, pravých či falošných a niektorým z toho pekne drbe.
U textů bych ještě zůstal, musím říct, že je v tom všechno, osobní a životní postoj, kritika systému a společnosti, víra v sebe sama, žádná klišé... podle mě hodně silná stránka Začiatok Konca. Kdo z vás píše tak perfektní texty?
Diky. Asi do roku 1999 písal texty väčšinou spevák Novko, ktorý otextoval aj album "Morskí vlci". Texty na "Another day" s trochu lámanou angličtinou urobil vtedajší spevák ale ostatné veci celý čas píše náš bubeník. Snažíme sa aby text zapadol aj do kontextu s hudbou, aby podtrhol náladu pesničky. Chceme v nich povedať niečo viac, nie len prvoplánové, povrchné a tuctové myšlienky. K tvrdej hudbe to už nejak patrí. Aj zábava aj vážne veci. Ale pravdu povediac, v poslednej dobe sa chceme trochu odľahčiť od vážnych a depresívnych tém. Niekedy sa to ale nedá. A keď už nenájdeme tému a svet dospeje konečne k rozumu, tak začneme spievať už len o láske.
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Greetings Začiatok Konca, I would skip obligatory introduce of the band, because on the czechoslovakian scene you aren't any novice and aks you directly. What's new are you planing this year regards to your anninversary?
Hi! Basically we don't plan anything, we wanted to do big event but in Topolčany we have no appropriate venue, so maybe later. We wanted invite bands which stood with us for all that long years, but never mind, when we still will be here we celebrate it unconventionally on the 31st anniversary, there is still enough time, or we will leave it for the 40th anniversary. We are going to record some new material and hopefully we could finally make that video. We will see, for now we are still looking for a someone who would help us with it and force us to be little bit like actors.
Last year you released new mini-album Babylon A.D., which is by the way absolutely perfect. However this album was released only on the web in digital form, have you ever thought to release it in future on the LP, for example together with non-published songs from the year 2015?
Thanks for praise. Of course, we would like to see it on the vinyl, truth is that in our collection we don't have LP yet. We have done some new songs which are ready for studio, we would like to to release them, together with other singles which were released only digitally. LP is right now for us to expensive and we can't afford it. Most of our things we are doing DIY with help of our friends in studio, graphics and so on. When we will have enough money, will be also LP.
This year Začiatok Konca celebrate 30 years, when you look back in the years, which one from that three decades was the strongest for the band and czechoslovakian oi!, punk and hardcore scene generally? Which one from that three decades had some spirit according to you?
I would say years 2000 - 2004 were the strongest, regards to hardcore, oi! and punk scene. It was strong years, when we were going on the gigs together with DPH, Happy Cocks and Dr. Pako... Mainly to Czech where it was puted together and got unite. Than it began to associate with something that was already enough for us, so we threw back. And not only us but also other bands and people around. What was built suddenly fell down, and people disappeared and remained disgusted from this. It's sad, that it finished like this. But everything goes further in our lives, and we stick to the slogan "live and let it live", which is a very important attitude especially these days. Of course only to that level if someone else is threatening you.
I would stay by your beginnings, how was the scene in Slovakia in the 90's? Here in Czech big raising of subculture awareness was made by the fanzines like Bulldog or Rytíř and Bulldog Boot Boys crew from Prague. Did you have something like that also in the Slovakia, some crew or fanzine? Or it was endless battle with numerous nazis?
In the 90's it was the best in that way, that there was lot of bands and friends, internet didn't exist for us, same like mobile phones and wasn't problem to meet each other in one pub even with mates from other cities. There was lot of styles like punk, anarcho-punk, hardcore, sXe hardcore, corssover... In Slovakia there was many fanzines, we don't remember names of them, maybe only Oskar Uličník from Rasťo and also many leftwing and sXe fanzines, which wrote about animal rights, vegeterianism, squats and so on. We have done lot of interviews for these fanzines, but it wasn't serious interviews, we didn't know what to answer. Everything it was mostly about beer and music, nobody cares about politics in that time, which was the best. We got know Bulldog zine and BBB in the year 2000 when we had gig together with The Protest in Topolčany, by the way it was only one gig of The Protest in Slovakia. We had here our crew called TPS, which even in these days meet each other, time to time. Similar crews around the bands were in that days almost everywhere, bunch of people who drank and were going on the gigs around all Slovakia and Czech.
You have been playing since the 1990, which is quite lots of years. How was evolution of the band, have you been oi! / skinhead band since the beginning or did it go gradually? And what about current line-up, how much original members stay there? I guess that nowadays you are not attached to much on the subcultural boxes, right?
We never care too much if it's oi!, hardcore or punk. We played what we just liked. We didn't take any style somehow in orthodox way, just no limiting music boxes. We like when it's more mixed. Music should be diverse. Of course we were influenced by lot of things from Agnostic Front, Spermbirds to Napalm Death, than we finally knew how to "hold our instruments", we got better ideas, it got better overall. We learned everything on the go, there was nobody to tell us how to play, how to compose, how to work in the studio. And actually we are still learning. Oi! influence in our music has been taken because of the spirit of the time when we wanted play simple and have more fun. We had a lot of people around us who were listening oi! So we found it quite natural and we enjoyed seeing everybody together, HC kids or oi!punx. Today we play in line-up where we are two original members (Novko and Feďo) and since 2019 we have two young and great musicians who give us a little bit of rock and roll for refreshment. But year 2020 started difficult for us, we are again without one member and we have done some songs only in three members line-up.
Since release of the album Zovretá past (Clenched Fist) from the year 2012, we can hear little bit more hardcore influenced sound. Is it result of the line-up changes or oi! and streetpunk started to be musically limiting for you?
Well, we always played in the way which could enjoy each member of the band, it's our basis. We don't think that we would play somehow different right now, it's just about little bit of "alchemy" and how you mix it in the studio and what sound you will get from it. And each song is just mirror of the mood when you compose it. Babylon A.D. was ariseing for long time, because of changes in the line-up and we are glad that we could record that songs, especially thanks to our ex-guitarist Mišo who came right to studio and made better sound of the record. We will see what we will do this year, streetpunk didn't disappear inside us but is boring to play still same stuff.
In the song "Na konci tma" (On the End Darkness) from the album Zovretá Past you are singing "I have real world in my eyes, that here never be paradise, one day will come darkness on the end". Do you really see development in the world and in our countries such hopelessly, that there is no chance, we could possibly build something little bit better than the system we grew up in and that one we are living in these days?
That refrain same like all lyrics is just mirror of the era we are living in, it's about our all history since man is man. People are bad to each other and nothing will help us. In that song we sing about idol which people crucified on the cross, about idol which with help of the blind ones killed milions of people, about idol which in the name of the faith is murdering and terrorising... There is not much optimism in the lyrics when we see how bad human can be. And people are waiting for the heaven, waiting for the heaven right now, here in this time, but they do nothing for that and only rely on somebody else who will make a decision instead of them, doesn't matter if it's god, politician or neighbor. Of course that regime we were growing up (real-socialism) won't get back, basically we are living in better conditions than before, but interpersonal relationships got worse. Also thanks to internet and anti-social networks. We have too much informations, fake news contra right informations and some people go mad from all of this.
Regarding to your lyrics I have to say there is everything, perosnal and life attitude, critisism of the system and society, faith for yourself, just no cliches... according to me lyrics are very strong side of Začiatok Konca. Who from the members is writing such a good lyrics?
Thanks, approxiatelly since the year 1999 all lyrics were written by singer Novko, who wrote all lyrics for album "Morskí vlci". Lyrics on the "Another day" with little bit poor english, wrote our ex-singer but the rest is writing for all the time our drummer. We try write lyrics to be in the same mood like is mood of the song, for the best effect. We want to say something more, than superficial thoughts, it belongs to the hard music! Fun but even serious topics. But to be honest last time we would like to have a break from serious and depressive topics and be more relaxed. Sometimes it's hard. And when we will find right topic for the song and world finally get sense, we will start to sing only about love :D
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